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ISBE Hears From Parents, Students, Senators, Superintendents On Mandatory Mask Policy

ISBE Hears From Parents, Students, Senators, Superintendents On Mandatory Mask Policy

BY JOHN KRAFT & KIRK ALLEN SPRINGFIELD, IL. (ECWd) – ECWd attended the Illinois State Board of Education meeting yesterday in Springfield, Illinois, where the Board heard more than 2 hours of public comment, mostly concerning the school mask requirements. The majority of those speaking were asking for it to be changed to “mask  optional”

BY JOHN KRAFT & KIRK ALLEN

SPRINGFIELD, IL. (ECWd) –

ECWd attended the Illinois State Board of Education meeting yesterday in Springfield, Illinois, where the Board heard more than 2 hours of public comment, mostly concerning the school mask requirements.

The majority of those speaking were asking for it to be changed to “mask  optional” and not be applied as it is currently being applied.

There were protesters outside the building when we showed up, all asking for mask optional.

We livestreamed the entire public comment period, which can be viewed below:

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  • jannie

    Posted at 07:58h, 19 August
    Reply

    I would not have gone in person – I’m afraid of these people who get so upset with wearing a mask. So masks optional means that you have “peer” pressure to not wear a mask. As it’s pretty obvious these people don’t want their kids to wear one, nor my guess do they. We already know that masks work as most schools have said there’s been less common illnesses during the 20/21 school year & yes our school was in session. Masks were no big deal because everyone wone one. It’s a matter of trying to keep the kids/staff safe – the masks are the problem, it’s the parents who can’t adjust to an inconvence and maybe don’t care if their kids get sick. I don’t get it.

    • JIMBO

      Posted at 11:33h, 19 August
      Reply

      Have it your way and don’t get it, then don’t even try.

    • Frank Miller

      Posted at 11:55h, 19 August
      Reply

      “A single paragraph has been added to the CDC’s website page titled, U.S. Influenza Surveillance System: Purpose and Methods, stating that because of COVID-19, it will suspend data collection for regular influenza during the 2020-2021 flu season. Thus, it will be impossible to statistically analyze the relative differences between COVID and influenza. It will also likely result in reporting some cases of influenza as COVID, when they are not. Thus, all attention will be given to COVID, magnifying cases to fit the pandemic narrative.” – Patrick Wood

      “I did a very thorough study of the scientific literature on masks, and I concentrated on, is there any evidence that masks can be of help in terms of reducing the risk of getting one of these viral respiratory diseases. And what I found is, when I looked at all the randomized controlled trials with verified outcome, meaning people actually measured whether or not the person was infected. I found that there were none of these well designed studies that were intended to remove any observational bias. Out of all the many trials that were done, none found that there was a statistically significant advantage for this application to wearing a mask versus not wearing a mask. And likewise there was no detectable difference between respirators and surgical masks. If there was any significant advantage to wearing a mask to reduce this risk, then you would have detected that in at least one of these trials. So that to me is a firm scientific conclusion. There is no evidence that masks are of any utility, either preventing the aerosol particles from coming out, or from going in. You are not helping the people around you by wearing a mask, and you’re not helping yourself, preventing the disease by wearing a mask. The science is unambiguous, in that such a positive effect can not be detected.

      You have to look at deaths, you have to look at all-cause mortality deaths on a per week or per day basis, because that’s reliable. If you try to assign a cause of death in a complicated situation like this, with a viral respiratory infection that taxes your immune system, and you die if you have co-morbidity conditions. To try to unravel that, epidemiologists have known forever, since the discipline started, that you can’t reliably do that. And there is a tremendous source of bias, there always has been, in terms of assigning deaths in the middle of an epidemic. So you don’t do that, you look at all-cause mortality. What you find is that the winter burden deaths of all-causes is not any different statistically from the previous several decades. So this was not anything out of the ordinary in terms of the usual array of viruses that give us viral respiratory diseases.” – Denis Rancourt

  • Matt Fischer

    Posted at 08:09h, 19 August
    Reply

    But you’re ignoring the peer pressure to wear a mask and get vaccinated because you believe in your side of the argument? Your bias is pretty obvious.

  • wunce1

    Posted at 09:19h, 19 August
    Reply

    One of the biggest arguments I see comments saying is “I just don’t understand why people are so against masks”. Well the reason that you dont understand is because you are blind and you are looking for every reason to not mind your own business. the reason that you dont understand is that you think that you have to be in everyone else’s business. We live in a free country to do what you will. What I dont understand is why women want to butcher babies. What I dont understand is how people think that there is more than two genders of the human species. What I dont understand is why the government thinks that they need to be in my business. What I dont understand is why people dont just mind their own business.

  • PK

    Posted at 11:27h, 19 August
    Reply

    That was a great exclamation point by Mt. Zion’s superintendent.

  • Truth Teller

    Posted at 12:04h, 19 August
    Reply

    So the Edgar County Watch Dogs are continuing their anti science and anti public health crusade. How many people have to die? How many children have to get infected, hospitalized and incubated? Despite what you say people ARE dying of Delta variant. Your claims about masks are scientifically wrong and fly in the face of what is known about masks used for years by doctors and nurses. Masks stop the spread of aerosol droplets that are present in your throat, nose that are breathe out when you talk, cough,sneezed. Children can wear masks. Masks don’t harm them as you’re trying to push. It’s impossible to suffer from lack of oxygen or breathe in CO2. Again doctors and nurses wear masks for extended times and aren’t passing out or dying because of their masks accumulate CO2.

    • John Kraft

      Posted at 12:32h, 19 August
      Reply

      Again, “Truth Teller” – or “far-from-the-truth-teller” – We simply livestreamed the public comment portion of the public meeting of the Illinois State Board of Education. No crusading involved.

  • jannie

    Posted at 07:58h, 19 August
    Reply

    I would not have gone in person – I’m afraid of these people who get so upset with wearing a mask. So masks optional means that you have “peer” pressure to not wear a mask. As it’s pretty obvious these people don’t want their kids to wear one, nor my guess do they. We already know that masks work as most schools have said there’s been less common illnesses during the 20/21 school year & yes our school was in session. Masks were no big deal because everyone wone one. It’s a matter of trying to keep the kids/staff safe – the masks are the problem, it’s the parents who can’t adjust to an inconvence and maybe don’t care if their kids get sick. I don’t get it.

    • JIMBO

      Posted at 11:33h, 19 August
      Reply

      Have it your way and don’t get it, then don’t even try.

    • Frank Miller

      Posted at 11:55h, 19 August
      Reply

      “A single paragraph has been added to the CDC’s website page titled, U.S. Influenza Surveillance System: Purpose and Methods, stating that because of COVID-19, it will suspend data collection for regular influenza during the 2020-2021 flu season. Thus, it will be impossible to statistically analyze the relative differences between COVID and influenza. It will also likely result in reporting some cases of influenza as COVID, when they are not. Thus, all attention will be given to COVID, magnifying cases to fit the pandemic narrative.” – Patrick Wood

      “I did a very thorough study of the scientific literature on masks, and I concentrated on, is there any evidence that masks can be of help in terms of reducing the risk of getting one of these viral respiratory diseases. And what I found is, when I looked at all the randomized controlled trials with verified outcome, meaning people actually measured whether or not the person was infected. I found that there were none of these well designed studies that were intended to remove any observational bias. Out of all the many trials that were done, none found that there was a statistically significant advantage for this application to wearing a mask versus not wearing a mask. And likewise there was no detectable difference between respirators and surgical masks. If there was any significant advantage to wearing a mask to reduce this risk, then you would have detected that in at least one of these trials. So that to me is a firm scientific conclusion. There is no evidence that masks are of any utility, either preventing the aerosol particles from coming out, or from going in. You are not helping the people around you by wearing a mask, and you’re not helping yourself, preventing the disease by wearing a mask. The science is unambiguous, in that such a positive effect can not be detected.

      You have to look at deaths, you have to look at all-cause mortality deaths on a per week or per day basis, because that’s reliable. If you try to assign a cause of death in a complicated situation like this, with a viral respiratory infection that taxes your immune system, and you die if you have co-morbidity conditions. To try to unravel that, epidemiologists have known forever, since the discipline started, that you can’t reliably do that. And there is a tremendous source of bias, there always has been, in terms of assigning deaths in the middle of an epidemic. So you don’t do that, you look at all-cause mortality. What you find is that the winter burden deaths of all-causes is not any different statistically from the previous several decades. So this was not anything out of the ordinary in terms of the usual array of viruses that give us viral respiratory diseases.” – Denis Rancourt

  • Matt Fischer

    Posted at 08:09h, 19 August
    Reply

    But you’re ignoring the peer pressure to wear a mask and get vaccinated because you believe in your side of the argument? Your bias is pretty obvious.

  • wunce1

    Posted at 09:19h, 19 August
    Reply

    One of the biggest arguments I see comments saying is “I just don’t understand why people are so against masks”. Well the reason that you dont understand is because you are blind and you are looking for every reason to not mind your own business. the reason that you dont understand is that you think that you have to be in everyone else’s business. We live in a free country to do what you will. What I dont understand is why women want to butcher babies. What I dont understand is how people think that there is more than two genders of the human species. What I dont understand is why the government thinks that they need to be in my business. What I dont understand is why people dont just mind their own business.

  • PK

    Posted at 11:27h, 19 August
    Reply

    That was a great exclamation point by Mt. Zion’s superintendent.

  • Truth Teller

    Posted at 12:04h, 19 August
    Reply

    So the Edgar County Watch Dogs are continuing their anti science and anti public health crusade. How many people have to die? How many children have to get infected, hospitalized and incubated? Despite what you say people ARE dying of Delta variant. Your claims about masks are scientifically wrong and fly in the face of what is known about masks used for years by doctors and nurses. Masks stop the spread of aerosol droplets that are present in your throat, nose that are breathe out when you talk, cough,sneezed. Children can wear masks. Masks don’t harm them as you’re trying to push. It’s impossible to suffer from lack of oxygen or breathe in CO2. Again doctors and nurses wear masks for extended times and aren’t passing out or dying because of their masks accumulate CO2.

    • John Kraft

      Posted at 12:32h, 19 August
      Reply

      Again, “Truth Teller” – or “far-from-the-truth-teller” – We simply livestreamed the public comment portion of the public meeting of the Illinois State Board of Education. No crusading involved.

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